ZACH SMITH SAYS HE TOLD URBAN MEYER ABOUT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT IN 2015: Urban Meyer will likely be fired at Ohio State
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Zach Smith says that he told Urban Meyer about the 2015 domestic violence incident which means that Urban Meyer will likely be fired at Ohio State University which is a travesty. Doctore joins me to discuss the latest developments in the Urban Meyer scandal that has rocked Columbus.
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what's up guys it's ferment what's up
guys it's your man Donovan Sharpe and
welcome to a special Sunday edition of
TSR sports talk obviously what has
dominated the news here in the last in
the last few days or so is of course the
the situation with Urban Meyer up in
Columbus up at up at Ohio State
University did he know didn't he know
should he be fired so of course the the
world the world is abuzz with excitement
you know obviously the the 24-hour news
cycle certainly allows us to talk about
this ad nauseam
so listen joining me to talk about this
is a man ilysm certainly doesn't need an
introduction my good friend Doctore
we obviously we do our we do our Sports
Talk you know shots from the pillbox so
we've done that now for a couple of
years it's been a couple years since we
started that thing we've been sort of on
and off with it I've changed location
since then he's changed location since
then when we foot when we when we first
started this thing I was living in Reno
he was living down in Phoenix now I'm in
Philly and he's in Seattle
so hopefully here within the next few
months we get everything stabilized we
can start to do this we can actually
start to do this on a on a regular basis
and and and do this thing a little bit
more consistently
Doctore man how you doing brother a
quick point of order of my man Donovan I
was in Tucson Arizona
Oh Tucson my mom went with her don't let
all my University of Wildcats get me
lying out there because I'm a wildcat
for sure and I'm a Tucson in for the
past 26 years and now up and see how
trying to get my mind on it get it
settled but yeah so listen just uh just
for a quick if you want to know where to
docs him if you want a doc stock touring
he was in Tucson but go ahead in you
please well you know Facebook and Google
I saw are all working with the
government now and it would Stoughton
are
already already spilled it good so you
never know whereas in degree with
industrial complex is going to come to
come for both of us is the co for others
so what a lot of meat on the bone here
and you know I've been thinking about
how to approach this because this came
on my radar about a day after broke Bret
McMurphy broke the story on Facebook and
has been at nauseam post on social media
ESPN and the various mainstream
publications from alternative
publications like Deadspin to the New
York Times so the Columbus Dispatch Dan
Patrick all the folks have have taken up
the mantle Miss Rich Eisen and but I
want to do is go back to the source
materials and and and as I was thinking
this morning I wanted to approach a
couple of principles here okay the first
thing I want to think about is we can
separate two things and come to
different conclusions because two things
can be true but one thing and I think
the two questions are here is the
credibility of Courtney Smith is a
victim who and the Quran and whether or
not we should and then we go into what
urban knew what he didn't know and what
is responsibility is going on what he
should shouldn't know and that's a
gendered grievance industrial complex
boilerplate right there and I'll get
into that but I want to I want to be for
all the folks may not be who may be just
getting familiar with me I was red pill
before the term was around this was back
in the 2000 I go back to Warren Farrell
my my Maya her gender dynamics my my
Jedi Master was not a great guy like
Rollo or even Arusha but Ross Jeffries
back ah yes Roz one of the OJS Amanda
look yeah
so no linguistic programming all I'm not
good at that the general principle so
diplomate Pol Pot Warren Farrell writing
for the U of a wildcat
and writing for a boy Sherman and the
various areas of the manosphere when it
comes to the red pill block from right
to big town to to to things of the
approach these from the sports
perspective to inter-gender dynamics is
your name dynamics in general and so my
bonafide are as you know are above
approach on this so I have to look at
this from the first perspective is the
first question we have to answer is
Courtney Smith and I'm going to come out
and no answer in terms of say Courtney
Smith checks off all the boxes as a
credible victim okay alright so in other
words so I was going to say so just so
we're clear you believe what Courtney
Smith is saying I believe what what
she's saying and because it not just
because I believe what she's saying what
do we say in the manosphere what do we
say in the red coat community never
believe what his red community writing
that is that always be courting right is
he recording you have cooperating
evidence okay so as I see it this is not
elusive in us Elissa Innes his rubric
sponsors ex-girlfriend yes he's not
someone who got chucked by a by a high
sexual market value male witch witch
witch witch cure program is higher right
this is not Tiffany Thompson the the
stripper who's trying to get all her
friends to suborning perjury essentially
from all our friends and Thompson for
those of you who don't know are that
that's that's Ezekiel Elliott accuser
she accuses iki Oh Elliott Zeke was
never charged but yet he still served a
five she still served a six game
suspension right she's not Tiffany
Thompson
she's not the young lady who dis accused
LeSean McCoy right now in those cases
the men had paper trails in many cases
or there was collaborating evidence to
prove that these were false accusations
okay so we have to apply the same
standards here Courtney Smith did not
try to sandbag this she's not using this
for any sort of personal gain although I
think she's trying to go after
wrong person that's urban - yes when
you're a victim sometimes you want to
lash out too much play let's just go
back and look at what the evidence says
what's the police early mm-hm
she kept going back to the Kalia
she got pressured by people who were
maybe friends of hers like like girl
Bruce yeah okay so who's a grandfather
but all the incentive structures were
there for her to remain silent right
today right in terms of there was no
incentive structure for her to do this
unless it was true I mean she was the
wife of a coach who was on an uptick on
a career track who comes from football
Royals right oh hi Ohio State man yeah
right so he was making 340 thousand
dollars last year I don't know how much
he's making in previous years but
coaches wives are de menthe they I know
I know a lot of coaches both high school
and college and pro level coaches wives
you've gone to that life you are
you've been screened for loyalty that's
right all right that's exactly ready for
being a quality human being a quality
person not just by the coats and cells
but all the people around them okay so
everything tell me - and and and they
just look to the evidence you have the
text messages yep you have the videos
you have the fact that Zack Smith's
attorney had their divorce documents
concealed or filled ex parte right
that's right um you have Zack Smith
saying and here's a text from mom right
the workers post and I'll include
everything to the post in terms of his
okay sure right like you could have left
that but he does have some good
reporting here so here's one of the
texts from Zach the Courtney just know
that now I will find you when you're out
I will come see producer with I will
fuck him up to the point that no one
will recognize him and other things
right him telling on himself when she
says you grabbed my neck and puta Konya
and he's like I know I'm sorry okay so
this guy I saw his video of what he said
because gotta hear both sides a story
sure I saw his video
of his of his his interview with ESPN
with right and he just like a crackhead
trying to trying to make a case people
looking down looking away yeah Zack
Smith came off as very non credible and
listened to be clear I am in the same
boat as you
I believe Courtney Smith I believe that
what she is saying is true did she
embellish a few parts of the story and
maybe but the fact of the matter is it
actually said this the first time I
talked about this listen even though
Zack Smith has never been charged with a
crime or arrested or anything let's not
sit here and pretend that we don't think
that he is a wife-beater he's of court
listen even if we had never seen the
bruises of course he's a wife-beater and
just like you said all of the incentive
structures were there by her to me there
you go right like we knew OJ was a wife
beater we're not gonna sit here and
pretend that that net that he was that
he was some angel so so um um in your
camp I believe Courtney Smith
i'ma and I don't believe Zack Smith I
believe that he abused her and I Mele
and I believe what she says yeah so the
next question comes up is what Urban
Meyer know when do you know it the
question that's been Manning about mom
but one question that people aren't
really going to ask and as you peel back
this onion and this thing's has so many
layers right now thing react to all of
it today but the general questions that
I want come from approach to a red pill
perspective and from a perspective of
someone who understands how the djinn
degree with industrial complex worked
and how they worked in the job material
case in Europe whereas oh very good good
parallel here here are the two questions
that you have to have what was Urban
Meyer supposed to do when you go men to
that's one and two will Shelley Meyer be
and leave and and what standard are we
holding the women to remember let's go
back what does the evidence tell us any
any responsibilities that were that were
that we're ascribing to Urban Meyer and
from the other male coaches
administrators we're ascribing these
responsibilities men in power based on a
leap of faith
because Courtney Smith says she's
assuming they knew right but why
evidence say the quadrille evidence says
I was talking with women with Y rain
okay yes exactly I was talking with G
Smith wife I was talking with this one
assistant coach his wife's name is
Lindsay I was talking with Shelly Meyer
right and I won't put this out here
right here because they will say well
Shelly Meyer she had to have spoken with
a liar about this and I think I
necessarily true I know where you're
going yet it might not necessarily be
true because Shelly Smith Shannon Julie
Mayer might be the epitome of a red pill
wife in that bingo trying to give her
husband plausible deniability listen man
there you go man and here's the thing
and I believe that Urban Meyer and
Shelley Smith probably had a
conversation
it probably had conversations long
before this even happened before he
probably back at Bowling Green then to
Utah they had they have a spoken /
unspoken agreement that if any shit goes
down that aligns with the social justice
narrative domestic violence rape sexual
assault do it and if any wives or
girlfriends or whatever reach out to you
and tell you about this do not tell me
and the reason why is the reason why is
so that Urban Meyer can say Shelley did
not tell me now now here's where I'm
gonna go at this Zack Smith told Urban
Meyer about that situation he told him
he told the interviewer from ESPN yes I
had it I had a talk with him he also
said something that was that that was
very pertinent he says I told him what
he needed it out zachsmith told her band
Meyer what he needed to go there's her
plausible deniability
okay so Urban Meyer knew about the
incident but Zack told urban that he
didn't hit her he told Durbin listen
I've been I might be charged with
domestic violence or I was charged with
domestic violence and but I didn't do it
urban so what's urban supposed to do now
he's got an assistant coach who has just
told him that you're charged with
domestic violence okay
and he's telling you that you're
innocent so what's he supposed to do run
to the cops
what's urban why are gonna do presumed
guilt so a coach is supposed to presume
guilt and run to the cops and
launch an investigation contacted by the
way and this is where an area else is
we're not to cut you off but there's no
good this is where this is where bourbon
is kind of inoculated back in 2009 one
incident was first reported look the
first thing you're supposed to you're
supposed to go to your superiors that's
exactly what he did he went to his
superiors there you go okay
disappears handle it he's like I'm gonna
look a right hand new is in comportment
with his principles right right okay and
what he's supposed to do in terms of
reporting as an administrator so we did
what he was supposed to do okay um the
police were contacted now is there any
evidence that he obstructed police no no
of course not there may be any evidence
that he was interviewed and obstructed
justice or told other people to not talk
to police or obstruct justice right oh
there is no there was not no I Papa
there but it comes out then we got some
serious serious pause well yeah the
proof is not the current bail situation
look Scott drew 20 15 years ago oh yes
with the Patrick Patrick Dennehy yes the
Carlton dance and yes I miss you yeah
okay now if we get some evidence on them
then we're going to have some serious
problems yes
nothing there to suggest that at this
point right so at this point what an
Urban Meyer do what's all the legitimate
authorities were contacted and a couple
wasn't counseling his role is in and a
friend there you go
him and Shelley were trying to help the
couple okay and is the subtext it's just
in here that he should fire Zach Swift
at that point well then who wins okay
right axe most is out of a job
now he's angry he's gonna blame Courtney
if that's right the abuse is going to
escalate the kids are not going to be
able to eat because they're had no food
of the table because she's not working
coaches wives do not work no they don't
they don't have to okay where they work
where their husbands are there you go
okay it is a it is a space you have to
sublimate your if you are a sports why
particularly in a in something as
itinerant as coaching or in a school
like say tennis or whatever like mirka
better or whatever you have to sublimate
your career right
and you have to follow where your
husband is okay so she wasn't working so
does anybody win these are the questions
that aren't being asked what was evan
supposed to do and I think what it goes
back to is this moving of the goalposts
that you see from the gender grievance
industrial complex right whenever it is
why I say is that is that their agenda
is always to is anything short of a
media firing or immediate suspension
that media termination is is you're
promoting sexual assault or you're
promoting domestic violence right and
listen to this how do we see with with
with the Joe Paterno situation well
unlike unlike Zack Smith Jerry Sandusky
was no longer lost already yeah mr.
Vaman historian okay Jerry Sandusky was
no longer on Joe Paterno squad when
these molestation occurred right okay
Joe Paterno had no power no but Jerry
Sandusky and what he did and his comings
and goings anymore all he had the power
to do is when he heard something in 2001
he went to his superiors as herb Meyer
there you go right and it's now again he
went they superiors the superiors did
not go to the police right Graham
Spanier tip yeah Graham Spanier Tim
Curley and I always forget the last
guy's name but yes you're exactly right
here's a here's another good yeah leap
the in it's interesting this this ties
right into the the the interview that
that Zack Smith did with ESPN the
interviewer asked him and it was so
funny the interviewer was trying to ask
him why urban did or didn't do these
things and it's clear listen it's
clearly inter the ESPN they have an
agenda to push they all men are bad but
what won't listen it listen that's fine
but listen you're asking you're asking
the interview subject you're asking the
interviewee why he thinks somebody else
didn't do something no man like that
that's what I'm saying that's not that
it's not gonna be admissible in the
court of law but you know what you know
where that is admissible
that's admissible in the court of public
opinion but but that's that's beside the
point Zach Smith didn't take the bait
here's the thing he asked him well why
didn't even investigate I'll tell you
why he didn't investigate and Zach told
him to because that's not Urban Meyer's
job okay the cops investigate the school
investigate
Urban Meyer coaches and wins national
championships not only that Urban
Meyer's not a judge a jury or an
executioner he is a coach right again
zachsmith
told herb and Meyer about the about the
alleged about the alleged incident he
told him coach I didn't do it know if he
had said listen Courtney called the cops
I did it i strangle their I choked her I
beat or whatever then Urban Meyer at
that point would say well listen dude
you're probably gonna be charged you're
out of here but zachsmith told him hey
look coach I didn't do it so again and
again these guys are these guys are not
mean he had him down at the University
of Florida right so you mean to tell me
that you wouldn't take you wouldn't take
a long time colleagues word for it now
listen maybe urban thought he was guilty
maybe he didn't but he but that but but
zachsmith told urban I'm not guilty
you can't go to the cops based on based
on an allegation that was denied by the
person being alleged of crimes you just
like you just can't do that and I'm
gonna answer your question I'm gonna
answer your question right now Doctore
because here's the crux of the situation
the reason why they're coming after herb
and Myers head here's the thing Zack
Smith it was already fired right Urban
Meyer found out some shit about Zack
Smith and fired him that's why they
asked him about it on Big Ten media day
right but here's the thing that's not
enough blood for the social justice
words that's not enough blood for the
for the industrial for the the grievance
industrial how you say it all the time
but gender yes the gendered grievance
industrial complex it's not enough blood
for them because who that dude who the
fuck knew who Zack Smith was before
before we found out that he got fired no
no no no no they want to go after the
big fish Urban Meyer did everything he
was supposed to do
but now that they figured out but now
that they have figured out that Urban
Meyer knew above allegations back
omitting still again Zack Smith hasn't
been charged but Zack Smith lost a judge
lost his job that's what's supposed to
happen right no they never want the
little guy to get fired they want
after the big guy and that's why this is
a hundred percent bullshit I was going
back and forth with someone on Twitter
or with someone on Facebook who said
will Urban Meyer knew about the
situation so he should be fired the
guy's a mmm I want to say something but
I'm also streaming this to you through
YouTube so I gotta be careful but again
that is the typical that is the typical
you know boilerplate social demand by
the way he's a black guy who's married
to a fat black woman so we already know
where his head is that as far as as far
as I'm concerned and listen if you if
he's out there watching this he's
welcome to call him like I invited him
but his response was ya know so it
almost makes me think that his wife had
ahold of his Twitter his bat life had
ahold of this Twitter account but this
is the way people are thinking if you
know what I'm saying like don't you yeah
right don't you don't you call but but
that's that's the problem
if urban and you said this I'll never
forget this a year ago you said it's a
part of the shared responsibility if one
man commits a crime against one woman
every man who knows this man by 30
degrees his aunts cousins granddaughter
sisters nephews neighbors husband if he
knows about it and and he is in a
position of power or notoriety then he's
got to go down even though he has no
idea what the situation is about Urban
Meyer was simply the head coach who was
informed he followed all the protocols
but because but because Zach Smith isn't
a big enough name that's why they're
going after Urban Meyer that's exactly
why they're doing this yeah it's it's
what I called it the goal is to bring
governance feminism's goal is to either
bring masculine institutions to heal and
to utterly destroy them yep okay yeah so
if you know they came that they had a
small spiders nickname and a couple
years ago yes but he cut somebody loose
very early player and it's ER and hold
on it turned out that that player was
venom one it turned out that that player
was a victim of a false domestic
violence accusation and guess what I
don't even know that he didn't get
drafted she didn't end up going to jail
so who ends up losing their right
exactly so it's one of those things what
we're doing is we're with the self thing
that's happening it's a subtle mission
creep okay yeah that it's one thing to
ask the war
if you have a CEO the boss and the
manager you're responsible for
responding to your employees behavior
right okay and you may be liable on a
company level after the fad financially
okay you are not morally responsible
after the fact
what we're doing is making coaches
morally responsible and responsible
after the fact for the behavior itself
and that's what we get into a dangerous
mind you spoke of wanting the big fish
right right
and how Urban Meyer had fired Zach Smith
and nobody knew who Zach Smith was until
every minor firing right right
so no good deed goes unpunished let's
take you back to our brows and something
that is always lost there you go all
right
in 2012 he found out in early March that
a rapist was on his team okay
it took him not six months not eight
months not forwarded not not a year not
two years it took him three weeks to
kick that rapist off the team Kevin
Elyot yes Wow before the good weeks or
four days before the guy was even
arrested okay right and he was arrested
and he doing 20 years right here he was
a rapist he was guilty of raping three
to four cuz the bail of a serial rapist
yeah eyebrows not color for this guy
nope he kicked him off the team okay so
what do you do you move the goalposts
right that's right and because
technically it was a nobody listen
here's the thing because Tevin Eliot was
a nobody he didn't lose enough right
never mind Matt listen he went to prison
he's serving 20 years in prison but
because he never achieved financial
notoriety because he wasn't like this is
what feminism likes to do they like to
take from people they like to go after
your livelihood 7 Elliot was never gonna
get chewed he got convicted of rape he's
gonna be in prison until he's you know
40-something years old but again that's
not enough blood they want to go after
someone who has a lot to lose well Art
Briles got he got the 42 million million
dollar buyout from Baylor and my guess
is that they were gonna do that anyway
but but again that wasn't enough blood
they don't want just the conviction they
want they
seven Elliott's uncle's his cousins his
brothers his football coaches football
dude they'll probably go after Josh
Gordon at some point at some point down
the line cuz John wait a minute didn't
Josh Gordon go to Baylor come to think
of it Mike Singletary went to Baylor
somebody I'm sure somebody probably told
him why didn't he go to the cops when he
was with the San Francisco 49ers they
want to go after all the big fish that's
all this is about just like you said to
bring masculine institutions down right
and it also the irony of governors and
codifies much the feminist imperative is
that you have a duty to it tries to
codify it speaks of women being
independent and being strong and being
equal but at the same time tries to
confer upon men a duty to protect that
goes back to the days of chivalry and
paving or anything yeah that's why I say
feminism loves patriarchy when it's
served their serves their purpose
okay and that's what they're saying here
with with with Urban Meyer with this
thing with our brows that is that he
didn't have a tea he didn't go on a
crusade cutting off head right exactly
so but the second question I think that
we need to also get into is speaking of
we we always like to ascribe ages
unlimited agency to man but not to women
so we know the fact that Shelley Meyer
do about this right have the text
messages right so John Mayer is also
part of the College of Nursing and so
we've been we had we've had me to think
of the continuing mission by the way
she's a medical professional okay this
is a medical and have a mental health
issue so if you're talking about salida
with a duty to report she would be it
who has a greater duty to report Shelley
Meyers right or Urban Meyer it would be
Shelley Meyer that's right right right
if they're any nurses and doctors or
social workers in their call in because
yeah by the way I was gonna say people
right yeah I was gonna say I've actually
been counting up all the totals we're
streaming this live to three YouTube
channels streaming this live to my
website on to Facebook channels we've
a total of a little over 170 people
watching so people are definitely
interested in interested in this but but
what Doctore was gonna say if you're a
medical professional first responder
haul in if you disagree haul in we want
to hear from you we wanted to be with
you listen man it listen it might be
better teachers I have friends that are
teachers I have instructors I have
friends that are instructors that have
wives of the teachers okay in that if
there's something happening at the high
school levels of schools the Scholastic
level particularly you have if you're a
teacher and you find out or you see some
indicator that there's some abuse going
on you have a mandatory duty to report
either to your superiors or to the
police or you will go to prison that's
right that's right that's almost like
being an accomplice and I've spoken with
a friend of mine I'm thinking it that
what we should do is start having that
standard apply to collegians or to
collegiate staff
okay take them out of that but the
feminists do not want that because they
don't want a paper trail they don't want
a real investigation they want these
nine yes they want the board of public
listen they want the court of public
opinion it's all you have a little bit
of a legal background am I mistaken or
or you know more about the legal field
than most people who are not lawyers the
the for those of you who aren't and I'll
give you I'll give you the perfect
parallel the court of the in the court
of law right in a court of law the
standard of proof as far as in the
criminal court is guilt beyond all
reasonable doubt in civil court the the
standard of proof is the preponderance
of the evidence and what that states the
preponderance of the evidence or clear
and convincing right which which are one
in the same so what that means is that
if the court finds that it is far more
likely than not that the plaintiff is
guilty then they find for the defendant
is guilty they find for the plaintiff
this is why Oh Jay was cleared in
criminal court but why he was found
liable for Nicole Brown and Ronald
Goldman death in civil court they said
okay well he was proven innocent with
beyond all reasonable doubt but we all
know that it's far more likely than not
that Oh Jay committed these murders and
that he's in him of course they held him
financially responsible to the tune 233
million dollars here's why feminists and
you nailed you hit this on the fuckin
head man feminists don't want
investigation they don't they want just
like you said they want title nine
investigations they want this tried in
the court of public opinion because the
standard of proof in the court of public
opinion is that it is it is more likely
than not that he is guilty and the
standard isn't even that high it's if we
think he's guilty he's guilty there you
go
or a lower my bed because just just for
a subtle point of water because I know
this and lawyers out there very
convincing and proponents and there's
two different things okay - of evidence
is fifty point forty nine is fifty point
one one forty nine point nine okay all
right just the smallest little clear and
convincing is about seventy to
seventy-five percent sure I'm sure
okay so that's in bit to pretty sure and
somewhat sure are two different things
obviously right and very sure almost to
medical physical servitude that's beyond
a reasonable doubt
like you said they don't want even the
standard of civil court because of the
civil court you have the right to
question your accuser that's right I
don't want that no they don't they don't
want they don't want it they don't want
you to face the accuser that's why
that's why there are rape shield laws so
you can file a false domestic violence
or false rape claim he gets his name
drawn out in the mud but you don't you
get you get protected by the rape shield
law is this this is bullshit yeah but we
haven't addressed a bit so I want to go
back to Shelley Meyer okay okay and by
the way I think she's a really she's a
rare appeal wife but oh yeah that said
when it comes to responsibility I want
to know if she's going to be put on
administrative leave they're gonna go
after urban but what if it wasn't if if
he goes down she's got to go down right
right well sure you gotta go down verses
for doodles right if you're going to
hold somebody responsible if you're
gonna hold somebody responsible and this
is where the specter of the mission
creep of title nine is coming back to
bite this could come back to buy a woman
in the behind okay because by the way
you know peddanna I'm in favor of what
your original intent was that you're not
supposed to be denied it
here's an opportunity but over the past
five or six years because of hospital
weaponised with the Dear Colleague
letter under President Obama the metal
Justice Department with Ross russlynn
ali they trend transmogrify title nine
into a rape law there you get a domestic
violence law and that is any woman on a
college campus that has been either
sexually assaulted or has been the
victim of domestic violence or assault
is by definition being denied an
educational opportunity okay now here's
the thing Courtney Smith is not a
student no she is it oh my god yes isn't
there use you see that in the held of
title nine come into finally the moment
the domestic she's not a student no
she's not for she was not he's not he's
knowledge he she was denied as a an
education opportunity she's denying that
he she's alleging that a member of a a
staff member on the athletic department
beat her within the context of their
marriage oh my god that is a police
matter there's a mayor of matter for
internal discipline in terms of whether
he's employed by the university anymore
it is not a timeline issue because it's
not involve a threat to students because
who has access to any way I mean it
could be one thing if he would be
women's gymnastics coach you don't want
you don't want a domestic abuser he
certainly was one of that nastic right
anyway know what he's dealing with man
who could all whoop his ass
right okay so where's the pattern on
implication I'm lost but this is what
happens we we see it in political
discourse yep with the mainstream media
MSNBC CNN even Fox News to extent and
also other folks the media is actually
parroting when it comes with Trump
Russia stuff and it's nonsense their
parity the military-industrial complex
and they're talking points and like
uncritically and the public is calling
them out on it and likewise
you've got the
you got the sports media parroting the
gin degree with industrial complex
because the path of least resistance
because if you know the other direction
you're not going to have a job right and
similar structures are built in to
parents so so you see Brett McMurphy for
all the good reporting he's done he's
calling Brenda Tracy and saying she was
gang-raped in 1998 okay with nobody's
ever asked the guys who were involved
course not because they were never
charged okay there you go you know I
don't you don't know sorry because if
they do that then now you have to listen
to the other side of the story that's
the problem
they only want one side of the story
nine one for 205 a lot three fight no no
are you there can you hear me yeah I
hear you okay there we are 911 for two
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watching between Donovan sharp calm
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my three youtube channels we are
discussing we're discussing the Urban
Meyer situation up in Columbus Ohio
Urban Meyer has been placed on
administrative leave because he
allegedly knew about a domestic violence
situation that had happened involving
his assistant coach Zack Smith and his
wife Courtney Smith I'd actually like to
to shift gears here and and talk about
the Courtney Smith interview and and
here's the thing and this is why I
haven't seen it oh well it's it's
actually pretty good and listen I
watched the Courtney Smith interview and
this is actually why and listen you can
look at her and tell and tell that she's
telling the truth not to say that women
aren't good Liars but just like you said
she didn't have reason to keep here's
why here's why I here's why I feel she's
a credible witness because when she came
forward with these out or came forward
when when she talked about this stuff
back at 2009 when when he was down with
Urban Meyer at Florida she said that she
was pressured by his friend his family
she was pressured by Urban Meyer's
attorney I think she may have even said
that Shelley Smith or Shelley Smith
Shelley Meyer had maybe I don't agree
time to freeze it what there you go okay
her reminds nobody know you're probably
freeze was a fool that's your friend and
uh-uh ruler hehe the former attorney is
right okay God okay gotcha and so they
told her so they told her look if you go
to the media
he'll never coach again and you won't
you want to know something they're
absolutely right but here's the problem
you chose not to
you chose to drop the charges you had
every reason listen don't listen here's
the thing and this is wit listen this is
your choice you got a decision to make
at this point Miss Smith you can either
go to the if the truth means that much
to you if it really was that bad if you
really were afraid for your life then
you would not have dropped the charges
okay so the consequences are guess what
now you don't have that $300,000 a year
paycheck coming in now you have to fend
for yourself and people may think well
that's not fair well sweetheart listen
every for every sequence there is a
consequence so now you have a choice to
make you can either stay there and
continue to receive the alleged abuse or
you can keep your mouth shut and keep
the checks coming in I want to point to
a 30 for 30 then I just because of
depression which in 2009 2015 2009
that's exactly what happened right but
it was right seemed like it was a long
time and there was an argument or
somebody going to still she called the
cops though right she called the cops
she called the cops and she was gonna
press charges and then she hit her broom
or a remark did what he was supposed to
do there you know Mom you know he told
some theories and whatnot but that abuse
right there was more look more like a
scuffle Nash sir someone's being shoved
to the side
sir that's one level right over the next
few years probably an Escalade in 13
2014 it escalated and she filed for
divorce three whole years ago okay all
right he didn't go to the media until he
started goofing around and yes cheating
on her
yeah granted you know sir yeah in terms
of I'm going to fuck up the guy that
you're with right right and it's now see
here now see here at Nesi here's the
thing man
we all want to paint Courtney Smith as
some poor victim guess what man he
listened he said in those text messages
I'm gonna fuck up the guy you're with so
guess what sweetheart he wasn't the only
one get inside pussy you were getting
side big too you know what I'm saying
like again and she says well he cheated
on me and it's not any other okay all
right that's fine but you cheated on him
too well it was because he cheated first
well what's it gonna be sweetheart you
can't listen you can't you can't choose
when to hide behind your moral compass
you chose to drop those charges I don't
care what the reason was you felt you
felt that you were in danger enough to
call the cops
you called the cops people pressured you
and you succumb you sit came to that
pressure I don't know if that's a word
so let's I'm gonna point out a 34:30
that I listen to I don't know if you I
don't know if you've I don't know if
you've listened to this I listen to the
ESPN 30 for 30 podcasts and they're
actually quite good but they dedicated
the entire season 3 to this yoga guy by
the name of Bikram Chowdhury this was
literally a smear campaign against a guy
who had allegedly raped five or six
women these five or six women went to
the Los Angeles they went to the LA the
the Los Angeles District Attorney's
Office they they all told their stories
Vikram's bit Bikram Choudhury was never
charged with the crime of rape or sexual
assault and because of that he SPN has
decided to run the smear campaign let me
tell you a story
the main one who came forward was a girl
by the name of Jill Waller she went to
this teacher training you guys should
definitely check out this this podcast
so she went to this teacher training she
was 18 years old you know he got
permission $10,000 she's and I think
they're in Las Vegas
here's how this escalate this is the
first one to come forward this is
unbelievable so it had been it had been
talked about throughout the female
teacher trainees that Vikram had a
tendency to hit on the girls right like
yeah Bikram gets touchy and he gets
drunk blah blah blah blah blah okay fine
well Jill was a good-looking 18 year old
fresh-faced girl from Canada so Bikram
summons her to his room what does she do
she goes to his room she goes to his
room he's like oh you know I need a
massage so of course everything you know
things are escalating he's like yeah I
need a massage further and further up my
thighs pretty soon he's he's toner I
need you to stroke my dick right whether
she did or not doesn't matter he didn't
he did they didn't have sex that night
right apparently Bikram had fallen
asleep but she stayed there the entire
night
she didn't leave she stayed there the
entire night so finally she goes down to
the teacher training Vikram gets her
outside and says look listen what
happened last night wasn't my you know
it's something that'll never happen
again I was drunk I was horny bla bla
bla bla bla listen man like I'll give
you I'll give you the teacher training
I'll endorse your yoga studio and the
teacher training is done just please
don't tell anybody don't go to the cops
Jill Lawler had a choice she can either
accept Vikram's apology or she could go
to the cops guess what she chose to do
Doctore she decide to accept his apology
guess what happened Bikram now Bikram
summons her to the room again multiple
times it keeps escalating she keeps
going to his room finally the story she
told he kept pressuring her to have sex
pressuring her to have sex she didn't
leave because she was scared that she
would lose her ten thousand dollars in
her teacher training and never be able
to teach yoga
her exact were and I'm paraphrasing here
she says well I may as well I might as
well do it because if I don't write like
who would believe me
so she fucks Bikram and Sheik and she
characterizes that as rape I guess that
was the only time she fucked him so he
didn't he did not have sex with Jill
Lawler against her will she might have
been pressured to but guess what as a
woman you can say no that is your choice
years later Jill Jill Waller he liked to
do it what what they like to do is they
try to they try to contextually remove
women's ages boom right when it's agency
and culpability and their
decision-making years later Jill is all
hurt and she's all scandalized and all
these mental problems that come with
being raped but which is basically
regret sex listen Jill Waller cheated on
her boyfriend she fucked Bikram
Chowdhury and she felt she felt guilty
about it this is why when she went to
the DA's office in Los Angeles they
didn't charge him with it because he
didn't force her to have sex sweetheart
you sucked his dick of your own free
will and volition you fucked him of your
own free will and volition you could
have gone to the police and reported him
you didn't so you ended up fucking him
that's what happened he didn't rape you
years later Doctore she goes to India to
find Vikram's cousin right
Bikram finds out somehow the cheese in
India he summons her to his yoga studio
in India where she fucks him again and
the interviewer says oh my god so he
assaulted you in India and Jo Wohlers
like yeah dude
Doctore that's not rape man that's
regret sex that is that is a man who has
power over a woman
years later because you feel like a slut
because that's what you were a slut now
you want to come out with all these
other women who had regret sex with with
the Alpha Bikram challenging oh yeah now
all of a sudden he raped me nah he raped
you because now he's worth millions now
he's out of the country right now
because there's a warrant out for his
arrest because he evaded taxes but if he
pulls off this bankruptcy the arrest
warrant is probably going to be removed
which means he can come back to America
and that's the reason why yes being
dedicated an entire season of 34:30
podcasts on a smear campaign and you
want to know something dude people
aren't stupid man they don't understand
that these social justice wires are the
minority all they've done is make Bikram
Chowdhury millions more dollars all
because of regret rape get the fuck out
of here with that the point is as
Courtney Smith had a choice the very
first time zachsmith put his hands on
her she she went to the cops she did the
right thing but she withdrew those
charges she dropped those charges
because I was pressured whatever excuse
it was that was your choice you didn't
have to but you did I don't feel sorry
for you yeah you know I I would be a
little bit further at the court in Smith
on that I don't like her going after
Overmeyer like no that's a money grab
but you and I can agree to it yeah you
and I can tell you wouldn't come we can
have common ground on that we can agree
to disagree on on the form apart because
a lot of this has to be fleshed out a
lot of the onion has to be peeled right
okay but I'm not gonna fault her for
giving him a second chance because there
are people that do something once and
they don't do it again sorry um
despite what the domestic violence
industrial complex which says once the
better are always a bad friend sometimes
people get into a fight and it never
happens again
that's right sometimes somebody commits
a robbery and it never happens again
sometimes somebody commits a rape as a
youngster and it never happens again
sometimes somebody drives drunk and it
never happens again so for her giving
him a second chance the feeling she was
trapped all the circumstances felt like
she was trapped and trying to do the
best thing for a family when she was
pregnant so you know I would but the
bikram thing yeah we've seen that a
million times i wouldnt ously call this
woman Joyce well I was fishing was
sprung she was one guy and he had that
effect awful
and it was a super alpha man
yeah well what you cut you loose then
you want to yeah you want to go ahead
it's an active predation so but we see
these things playing out over and over
again from America's perspective our
eyes are wide open
yeah and once again man that's great
being being on with you yeah absolutely
942 oh five five three five six we'll
probably be on for another what 10 15
minutes before we wrap this thing up
something else that I wanted to get into
as far as Courtney Smith was concerned
and listen to listen now I will agree
with you she she actually talked and
this again is what made her very
credible but which makes her a very
credible victim she described she says
look she's like I didn't think it would
happen happen again if you're abused by
your husband or a partner for the first
time you honestly believe that they
won't do it again you think that you can
change them and it listen she's living
proof that he doesn't do it again then
she goes into the shaming tactics oh
well he was controlling and he isolated
me he controlled our finances sweetheart
he was the one making all the money
right like dude like like again Retin
Orban Meyers red pill Shelley Meyers red
pill Zach Smith has obviously read mine
yeah what's mine is mine yeah there you
go there you go and it wasn't and Zach
Smith wouldn't play in that right he's
like listen I'm gonna fuck bitches on
the side you're gonna stay home you're
gonna have my kids I'm making the money
if you don't like it you can leave like
it again Courtney wasn't stupid right
she knew that zette well I don't know
with all the domestic violence
allegations you would think that she
knows she's gonna get the kids right and
and and again she I guess listen
obviously Courtney Smith doesn't
understand that the court systems are
heavily skewed in favor of women you
could be a drug-addicted prostitute the
courts are still gonna give you the kids
and not the husband who has a solid
stable home and makes good money
apparently she didn't really because she
didn't really feel that way and here's
another thing if she leaves Zach Smith
will there go the paychecks too man so
MA I also have another question - in
let's do what happened with some of the
some of the wives some of the husbands
there you go of these other one that she
texted
nothing because they're not urban on
here
coach there's a coach called Brian well
no no we seen coaches try to get hired
and have problems in higher for example
limbo click the vocally
is the wife of Brian Boling ok ok we
also see people who are part of who who
also part of the broader the Baylor
coaching staff and they're having
problems getting higher too unless they
fall on their sword right well and and
adopt the mantra on top Lamont Republic
I've seen a couple coaches go on public
key and listen I believe the Jews well
please let me have an approaching job
and I will say everything the gym degree
with industrial complex was a very good
address maybe multiple aiming is the
wife of Brian Baldwin consider one of
Meyers most loyal staff members and
here's what he got he goes back up
fifteen seasons Bowling Green Utah
Florida and Ohio State Wow
horny well Zach trying to max trying to
make me look crazy because that's what
Shelley is saying he that's what shall
he say he's doing
Lindsey her urban just said that denied
everything
Courtney I hope over is long that
Lindsey key doesn't know how he doesn't
know what to think Courtney I don't
really I don't really care you know
that's what Courtney said he says yeah
don't worry don't worry about herb so
they were discussing this matter I was
what's going to happen with what is
Lizzie Bo Pelini do really is she
remember she worked for Ohio State right
you guys welcome in title nine yeah is
he a planner timeline is this quite a
guess they had but but we see with the
Genovese industrial complex that there
is a scorched-earth policy yes they want
yeah remember it's like it it's like
what was that uh what was what was it
from the untouchables I want him dead I
want his family yeah that's right was
kid dead right all of it man you know
what the people that's responsible you
want everybody around and as you say
it's right dad
terminate it and not able to pursue by
the way have you heard they get a
coaching job
no don't do don't say that too loud man
are you kidding I didn't hear about that
i I didn't I just heard about it
something that I saw in SN yes I
remember he I remember he got like a
coach I think it got like an offensive
coordinating job for a CFL team and then
12 hours later they fired him because
the Twitter the Twitter outrage happened
right exactly so let's see you know what
I'll actually look this up though
finally get a new job with the it's a
bit but guess where it is in Italy he's
coaching football in Italy yes wow man
oh my yep ex Baylor coach Jesus dude
this guy yeah machine 305 just pointing
it out dude this guy Hestia this guy is
so ostracized that he's got a coach in
do they even know what American football
is in Italy like I don't even know I've
never seen something 20 or 30 years ago
about them trying to grow a tomato it's
one of the few European countries where
it's sort of a minor foothold the
episodes being hired because it's
nowhere near stock since then but he
will coach the wealthy for in the
American football team an Italian team
located in Florence and all this has
some pretty good symbolism because
forest is where all the goggles are and
his career the 50 bends around so yeah
that's that that's that's that's it for
our brands we'll listen he's a
multi-millionaire like many many times
over so he's you know I mean he listened
he made he made big money we made as a
failure yeah he made him pay that and
here's the thing man like were a bailer
would have loved to have kept him but
they could they they just couldn't so
wrap this thing up man at the end of the
day this is this we are trying to fire
the the the medias tried to get Urban
Meyer fired based on something he may or
may not have known listen Urban Meyer
didn't put his hands on anybody Urban
Meyer didn't domestically abuse anybody
he didn't rape anybody an assistant
coach told him about a domestic violence
allegation that he denied right then and
there
Urban Meyer went right up the chain he
did exactly what he was supposed to do
here's the thing the reason they want
Urban Meyer fired is because they want
the blood they don't did they don't care
about the truth
Zack Smith losing his job that's not
enough blood they want to send a message
that it because you want to know what
kind of precedent this sets
Doctore because here's the thing a
players let's say an assistant trainer
let's say she just decides to end
somebody's career but let's say she's at
Florida State University let's say the
assistant the the the the the wife of an
assistant trainer text the wife of well
let's go Texas A&M; Jimbo Fisher let's
say Jimbo Fisher's wife gets a text from
the assistant graduate athletic trainers
wife that he that he put hands on her so
if now it's so now okay now she can go
to the media and say yo I think that
Jimbo Fisher knows about a domestic
violence accusation now they have to
fire him based on what somebody said and
again the title nine investment she
wouldn't even be title nine because
she's she's the wife title 9
investigation say that a person doesn't
even have to be arrested or convicted
which which and of course this is an
abuse of power man women are abusing
this power so basically any woman can
make up any kind of story and say that
she told a coach and say that she told
the coach his wife doctor a let's not
forget there is no there is no oh my god
how can we put this Urban Meyer did
exactly what he was supposed to do she
didn't tell herb in my early Urban Meyer
heard this to the great yes he adhered
to the protocol but because good here's
the thing informed before you wrap this
up I don't want it too far down the road
before you before you decide here but
what I forgot to say is that or I should
have said earlier is that what people
are me and this is how the gender group
industrial complex about any control
over there we cloud your mind okay
clouds people's mind is long ago
protocols were established for secrecy
of these type of allegations right so
not everybody gets to find out okay
names are redacted things are kept
private
from our wave shield laws so our Maya
can't just do a FOIA request right get
all this information right because the
police particularly when it comes to
matters of sexual violence domestic
violence whatever had varies depending
on the department a very strict protocol
as to what information they can release
and to whom Wow
yet we expect we expect a college coach
to have Stano like power and what goes
back to is what Rolo said is that the
ones who present themselves most in the
white night and that's what reminds
Christian himself has never hit a woman
blah blah blah
which for the most part agree with but
still he's put himself out there as that
guy they're the first one they come
coming but they come calling for every
single time by the way Hashim 305 says
Jimba I didn't even know about this
Jimbo Fisher is divorced his wife was
cheating on him with Taylor Jacobs what
I didn't know do you remember that you
meant listen remember the first trio of
receivers at the University of Florida
was Jacques green Ike Hilliard and
Reidel Anthony that was when Danny
Werfel the Steve Spurrier fun and gun
then years later it was Taylor Jacobs
rachet Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney right
yeah so apparently I guess Jimbo Fisher
was on that I guess
Taylor Jake I don't know how that would
I don't know how that would work because
I didn't know that that that he was
everyone yeah he was on Florida State
step but but listen I'm looking I listen
I said
Jimbo Fisher Jimbo Fisher's wife Taylor
Jacob so maybe she cheated on him with
Taylor Jacobs years after he went pro
second man named as yeah basically this
was goddamned I swear to god these wives
listen man I mean they're sluts
they are she's she's a god yeah yeah so
apparently apparently Jacob said there
you go alpha plus beta bucks man one did
that NFL did Jesus Christ man Doctore
thank you for making the time to to talk
to us today man your your your insight
and your expertise is always welcome and
this is a good definitely good show
topic when I lever back and forth
or doing more of the Dunivant we'll talk
to you soon my brother all right man
take care all right so Doctore dropping
the knowledge as usual yeah yeah at the
end of the day guys this this this comes
down to the social justice warriors just
not getting enough blood nobody knew who
the hell's Exmouth was until Urban Meyer
fired him and zachsmith losing his job
that doesn't really that doesn't move
the needle that doesn't that doesn't
that doesn't get put on the radar nobody
nobody cares about zachsmith they they
want the big guy to get fired they want
the big fish to get fired him because
Urban Meyer Urban Meyer knew of an
accusation that zachsmith denied who
again he still he still hasn't been
found guilty even assuming that he's
guilty that's not that's not Jimbo
Fisher's fault that or Jimbo Fisher
Jesus Christ that's not urban that's not
Urban Meyer's fault so so again this is
listen man the beat goes on the beat
goes on man this is this is how the
social justice where your machine works
and listen it's gonna get it's gonna get
worse before it gets better than this
this is probably never gonna change in
my lifetime thank you for watching this
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Alexander Haywood yes that Korey
Alexander Haywood that I challenged to a
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it wasn't because he didn't want to show
up this is actually my fault I'm gonna
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situation with black women and why
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